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ELO Salon - Shared screen with speaker view
Brian Kelly
07:34
Hello and welcome!
Astrid Ensslin (she/her)
08:34
Thanks so much, John
Lyle Skains
10:18
Can you send again? If we just joined we can’t see it.
Carolyn G Guertin
10:20
I understand congratulations are in order for Stephanie Strickland!
Yohanna Waliya
10:33
Hello
Agnieszka Przybyszewska
10:46
Hello everyone!
Anna Nacher
10:49
Hello all!
Bill Bly
11:01
¡Hola de México!
Leonardo Flores
11:02
https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/series/electronic-literature/
Brian Kelly
11:09
Congratulations Stephanie!
Yohanna Waliya
11:10
Congrats Prof. Dene
alan bigelow
11:14
Hi, everyone!
Anna Nacher
11:29
Congratulations!
Brian Kelly
11:34
Welcome to Book Launch at Electronic Literature Organization SalonElectronic Literature as Digital Humanities: Contexts, Forms, and Practices. by Dene Grigar and James O'Sullivan
Yohanna Waliya
12:04
Congrats James O'Sullivan!
Brian Kelly
12:15
Hooray for Bloomsbury!
Alan Sondheim
12:30
of course, Stephanie!
Deena Larsen
13:29
The ELO salons are going strong and we love the chance to celebrate!
Deena Larsen
13:56
Johannah is our wonderful archivist for the ELO salons!'
alan bigelow
13:59
Congratulations to Dene and James!
Yohanna Waliya
14:10
Yes, because proactive artist is behind it, Deena!!!
Deena Larsen
14:13
and Caitlin has generously provided the stable zoom from York University
Deena Larsen
14:38
Yeah!! Editors!!
Dene Grigar
15:10
The book by the numbers: 31 Articles43 authors348 Artists and Scholars listed in the Index of Names
Yohanna Waliya
15:19
Thanks Caitlin Fisher for your generosity!
Yohanna Waliya
15:55
Woow Dene Grigar!
Deena Larsen
15:58
Loud cheers for Leo, our ELO resident~!!
Deena Larsen
16:11
ok yeah, he lives here, but he is also president
Leonardo Flores
16:25
LOL
Mark Marino
16:37
Join today: https://eliterature.org/membership/
Deena Larsen
16:44
https://eliterature.org/
Mark Marino
16:44
So many member benefits
Yohanna Waliya
16:51
Please I have problem with the sound. Is it only me?
jeneennaji
17:01
sounds fine for me
Leonardo Flores
17:02
I can hear just fine.
Dene Grigar
17:03
I am not having trouble, Yohanna
Leonardo Flores
18:01
Here’s a link to the book series: https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/series/electronic-literature/
Johannah Rodgers
18:46
Here is a link to John Cayley’s book: https://www.bloomsbury.com/us/grammalepsy-9781501335761/
Deena Larsen
20:06
tosses out tasty blooms of semiotic modalities for all.
jeneennaji
20:16
nomnom
Johannah Rodgers
20:33
And here is a link to Roderick Coover’s book to DOWNLOAD FOR FREE!: https://www.bloomsburycollections.com/book/the-digital-imaginary-literature-and-cinema-of-the-database/introduction
Anna Nacher
21:10
Thanks, Johanna!
Deena Larsen
21:18
Tosses out streamers of congratulations!
Lyle Skains
21:52
So nice to see Katie in (virtual) person!
Dene Grigar
21:58
Nods
Leonardo Flores
22:29
Folks, I need to go to my other meeting now. But I’m looking forward to watching the rest of the event in the recording.
Leonardo Flores
22:40
So good to see you all!
Deena Larsen
22:41
thank you Leo!!
Astrid Ensslin (she/her)
22:45
bye, Leo! Thanks for coming
Astrid Ensslin (she/her)
23:05
Thanks, Katie. :-)
Yohanna Waliya
23:11
Bye Leo
Deena Larsen
23:36
https://electronicbookreview.com/
Yohanna Waliya
23:47
Nice to see virtually Will Luers
Johannah Rodgers
23:53
Yay: Alt-X!
jeneennaji
24:12
hey I liked those essays!
Will Luers
27:13
altx.com/ebr/threads/threads.htm
Will Luers
27:35
https://www.altx.com/ebr/threads/threads.htm
Astrid Ensslin (she/her)
27:46
Do you want to do my next one, Dene?
Deena Larsen
28:18
Inclusive indexes--the only way to show the diversity in the field!!!
Johannah Rodgers
29:30
I am so sorry to hear that James is ill!
Deena Larsen
29:36
Sending healing energy to James... who put toether the ELO 2019 and is an incredible friend to all of us!
Anna Nacher
29:52
Yes, we’re all sending the best healing energies to James!
Dani Spinosa
30:28
Get well soon, James!!! <3
GIOVANNA Di ROSARIO
30:31
sorry folks I am here and on another meeting as well (on teams) back in a while. A big hug to James!!
Deena Larsen
31:03
thanks for being here Giovanna!
Deena Larsen
31:50
Hooray for mez and three d art!
Deena Larsen
32:39
Hooray for Astrid --I can see you two watching the raccoons by Dene's living room window and stealing the project into DH.
Anna Nacher
32:58
Dene, this remark alone (on re-focusing) is the most comforting thing I’ve heard for the last year or so!
Astrid Ensslin (she/her)
33:00
Raccoons galore
Johannah Rodgers
33:10
I’m afraid I also have to go to another meeting, but it is great to see everyone and to celebrate the publication of this book.
Alan Sondheim
34:00
Apologies, have to get back to editing some concert footage. Congratulations!!!
Deena Larsen
34:04
Thank you Johannah! hands round champagne flutes and lutes for all to sip from
Deena Larsen
34:29
passes around the joy sticks
Deena Larsen
34:51
Carolyn, you are on mute
Carolyn G Guertin
35:18
I’ll sign, Deena. :-)
Deena Larsen
36:55
Hooray for google docs and instant communication. Hands round brass sneakers to celebrate the end of sneaker net
Astrid Ensslin (she/her)
37:04
sounds familiar
David Van Duzer
37:25
Don't underestimate Sneakers!
Astrid Ensslin (she/her)
38:03
non-boxable
Deena Larsen
38:21
hands out exploding boxes
Tina Escaja
38:24
This is a great project! Congratulations. I wonder if non-English e-lit representations are included. Thanks for commenting on inclusivity.
Astrid Ensslin (she/her)
39:06
Tina, we have Reham Hosny's monograph on Arabic e-lit forthcoming in the series
Deena Larsen
39:39
We can hear you Yohanna
Deena Larsen
40:00
African eliterature is now on the horizon! We need to do a second volume
Astrid Ensslin (she/her)
40:06
Yohanna is developing an entire database of African e-lit
David Van Duzer
40:52
*snaps like a cool guy* volume 2!
Deena Larsen
41:09
We now have elit on every continent and so many languages, we need to build world wide now!
Astrid Ensslin (she/her)
41:22
Great idea, David
Nick Montfort
41:41
*waves hi*
Lyle Skains
41:50
Some attention to Indian e-lit would be great, too!
Caitlin Fisher
42:16
Video or the wave didn’t happen, Nick ;) (hi ;)
Anna Nacher
42:26
and Central European e-lit and its fascinating genealogies
Deena Larsen
42:47
What are your highest hopes for this work--in reaching out to digital humanities, universities, and just plain old readers? How can we use this to spread the word about elit?
Deena Larsen
43:09
Celebrate this year's 2021--where else could we have four universities all over the world in one conference?
Deena Larsen
43:33
hands out canastas and bangles so we can all clap
Deena Larsen
44:36
Can all the artists in the book raise their hands? come on, don't be shy now!
Deena Larsen
45:44
YEs, how can we use this book to further our discussions?
Deena Larsen
47:14
First Friday discordsELO calendaradding collections to the repository
Deena Larsen
47:38
hands out scatter shots for disappearing cannons
Lyle Skains
48:07
I say bah to canon. Humbug.
Deena Larsen
48:34
We keep reinventing. See Bill Bly's web We Descend, Marble springs, etc
David Van Duzer
48:45
ruffle!
Anna Nacher
48:47
so much discussion now is happening in all these spaces: Discord, Salons, various Zoom meetings - I’m just wondering how we’re gonna document this free flowing energy as it comes
Deena Larsen
48:54
Hooray for Ruffle! Hands out elizaabethan ruffs all round
Anna Nacher
48:59
as it emerges
David Van Duzer
49:01
ruffle will keep getting better
alan bigelow
49:31
Very nicely said, Dene!
Lyle Skains
50:40
Is Rob attempting to hypnotise all of us?
Astrid Ensslin (she/her)
51:03
it's working ...
Deena Larsen
51:03
More ELO every Second Tuesday at 11 am ESTMarch (RE)VERB Andrew Demirjian <ademirji@hunter.cuny.edu>April: Yohanna Joseph Waliya Topic: The birth of African e-litMay: Virtual Engagement SalonJune: Playable Comms (Lyle Skains)July: Metadata and nuts and bolts ELO Repository
Lyle Skains
51:04
Jason Nelson has made that argument, too.
Caitlin Fisher
51:04
Rob is conducting our shadow selves…
Anna Nacher
51:23
Rob is weaving us into a nice colourful ribbon of ideas
Astrid Ensslin (she/her)
51:59
It IS freakin' good!
Deena Larsen
52:03
Weaving the invislbe ephemerality of our words
Astrid Ensslin (she/her)
53:17
we call it "the lore"
jeneennaji
53:23
I think that we are supposed to stop colonising
jeneennaji
53:26
lol
Deena Larsen
53:31
Play in new spaces,, push their boundaries, is what we have been doing since the 1990s, and then the platforms disappear...
Astrid Ensslin (she/her)
53:35
I think Rob has to go
Anna Nacher
53:47
conducting the ephemeral invisibility some muted words
Deena Larsen
53:49
Fondly remembers the bugs exploited in storyspace, the HyperCard...
Astrid Ensslin (she/her)
53:50
or is that a hand raised to speak?
Lyle Skains (she/her)
53:54
Let them go organically. There will always people who will want to impose order on that, but we’ll just keep getting into other nooks and crannies.
Lyle Skains (she/her)
54:00
*be
Deena Larsen
54:06
I think Rob has the best background
Deena Larsen
54:26
We have to keep reweaving the thread...
jeneennaji
54:52
Rob’s hand up!
jeneennaji
55:01
his analogue hand!
Astrid Ensslin (she/her)
55:35
Deena, this is happening though
Caitlin Fisher
55:49
I couldn’t see Rob’s hand because it was static.
Astrid Ensslin (she/her)
55:58
ephemeral hand
Deena Larsen
56:20
hands out collector life preservers to all
Astrid Ensslin (she/her)
56:56
aca-fans
Deena Larsen
57:28
The anthology--a handy way to keep and carry your collections
Deena Larsen
57:48
We don't even know what we have lost!
Deena Larsen
58:47
We are all friends here, and we are speaking to the wrong crowd.
Tina Escaja
58:57
The canon is a construction, following an agenda and statys quo. It is a system of dominance. Let’s create a de-centered canon (if that is not an oxymoron ;)
Deena Larsen
59:25
Hwo do we market our explications, and our expectations? The articles provide the foundation--
Lyle Skains (she/her)
59:45
Trying a bit over here! http://Wonderbox.digital is about to be announced as out of beta, and more competitions (funded by the US Gov’t, little do they know…)
Anna Nacher
01:00:07
so the curated streaming of the memes which we already do
Anna Nacher
01:00:19
or at least a few folks do
Astrid Ensslin (she/her)
01:00:25
@Tina, it's what I suggested in Canonizing. I used the word "dynamic" but "decentered" is great too
Deena Larsen
01:00:49
This book has bots, kinetic poetry, games, epoetry, database--all around the world--how do we share the term
Anastasia Salter
01:01:07
We got some good responses to our Fall for The Book e-lit exhibition, and one of the creators from that was asked to do a Twine workshop that'll be coming up in March: https://fallforthebook.org/schedule/
Deena Larsen
01:01:38
We have netprov--which proves we can just improve and improvise
Carolyn G Guertin
01:01:47
We’ve always been niche.
Dani Spinosa
01:02:05
I have a meeting at 1:00, so I have to bail. But congrats Dene and send my best wishes to James! Can't wait to read through this collection!
David Van Duzer
01:02:33
Tom Friendman's latest op-ed: Is E-lit only for the E-lite?
Anna Nacher
01:02:45
the relationship between niche and mainstream is very complex, so I don’t think we need to “promote”, I agree with @Mark
Astrid Ensslin (she/her)
01:03:19
I have to go too. Thanks, everyone, for coming, and for spreading the word about this book. Take care, folks!
Lyle Skains (she/her)
01:03:30
Bye, Astrid! Great work!
Deena Larsen
01:03:30
We can keep the concepts and the conceits of elit(e) but we can see the literature in the wild--Lyle is still chasing and collating the electronic literature in the wild--applying the term to these digital art/digital lit/digital playthings
Anna Nacher
01:03:31
Let’s put some seed bombs here and there and let’s see what happens :-)
Carolyn G Guertin
01:03:42
Where is ‘Tom Friendman's latest op-ed: Is E-lit only for the E-lite?’ Available?
Deena Larsen
01:03:55
packs seed bombs of netprov and bots and databases into the cannons so everyone can shoot them off
Alice Bell
01:04:48
I must go now too. Thank you for organising this launch. I've really enjoyed it and I can't wait to read the book!
Lyle Skains (she/her)
01:04:59
Let’s not get into the insidious rationale for teaching literature tho…
David Van Duzer
01:05:04
do you choose Earth-234 where Maureen Dowd pens the article, or do you choose Earth-729 where Thomas Friedman writes it?
Lyle Skains (she/her)
01:06:18
Good to see you, Alice!
Nick Montfort
01:06:22
Unmuted throat clearing, sorry
Dene Grigar
01:06:45
thank you all of you for participating in the book and its launch
jeneennaji
01:06:52
huh maybe I’m not paranoid
David Van Duzer
01:07:01
so wonderful to see and hear all of you. time for me to code up some more digital flotsam to one day be lost forever...
Dene Grigar
01:07:02
It means a lot to me that you have contributed the book and support the series
Anastasia Salter
01:07:06
Thank you Dene for making this happen! So excited to read the rest of the book :-D
alan bigelow
01:07:09
Again, congratulations, Dene!
jeneennaji
01:07:16
yes that’s a good point re institutional place
Deena Larsen
01:07:17
Launching the fireworks and rocketships and huzzahs for this incredibly important work of scholarship!
Dene Grigar
01:07:20
I encourage you to consider submitting a manuscript to the series
Anna Nacher
01:07:30
Thank you a lot for making this happen, Dene & Deena!
David Van Duzer
01:07:46
thank you Deena and Dene!
Lyle Skains (she/her)
01:07:50
Oh, I’m also doing a Playable Comms project, using digital fiction for science teaching, health messages, etc. That’s one way: to just use it as a tool!
Anastasia Salter
01:07:54
If anyone's interested in submitting to the series and hasn't done an academic book proposal before, I've created some resources on that with samples from my book-submission journeys and can share, just shoot me an email :)
jeneennaji
01:08:12
fyi I have a digital poetry book out in march and it is a realll page turner - gripping stuff ;-)
Anna Nacher
01:08:20
Thanks, Anastasia!
annie
01:08:33
Sorry for being late
Dene Grigar
01:08:36
I am looking forward to your book, Jeneen
Lyle Skains (she/her)
01:08:41
Good shout, Anastasia! I’m happy to help, too
jeneennaji
01:08:43
thx dene :-)
jeneennaji
01:09:03
thx Deena
Caitlin Fisher
01:09:11
hi Judy!
Kate Armstrong (she/her)
01:09:15
Great to see everyone!
Nick Montfort
01:09:22
Take care, all!
Anastasia Salter
01:09:25
Great to see y'all! :-D
Mark Marino
01:09:27
Don’t miss out on Nick Montfort’s book launch the next ELO First Friday!
Anastasia Salter
01:09:42
Some of us have to go to the next Zoom :( sorry!
alan bigelow
01:09:54
I have to go. Thanks everyone!
Nick Montfort
01:09:55
Please do join us on Discord March 5 for a presentation of Golem
David Van Duzer
01:09:56
enjoy the coffee! <3
GIOVANNA Di ROSARIO
01:09:59
great to see you all!
Mark Marino
01:09:59
Hi, Judy!
jeneennaji
01:10:04
I have to go to class now but i’ll be late for judy
Nick Montfort
01:10:05
(heading to a meeting now, bye & congrats!)
Anna Nacher
01:10:32
I need to go too, thank you a lot so much!
jeneennaji
01:10:46
go Stephanie!
Bill Bly
01:10:50
Congratulations to all on a terrific book!
katie
01:10:51
Thank you everyone - what a wonderful publication! see you for the next one!
Kate Armstrong (she/her)
01:10:57
Thanks for everything Dene! Pass along regards to James!
Waliya Yohanna
01:11:24
Hi Judy
Mark Marino
01:11:38
Congrats!!!
Schäfer, Jörgen, Dr.
01:11:44
Thanks! Have to go to the next meeting, too!
Christine Wilks
01:11:49
Thanks all and congratulations!
GIOVANNA Di ROSARIO
01:11:50
thank you Dena!
Deena Larsen
01:11:51
John sasys Thank you everyone for this good morning conversation. Congratulations for the release of this fabulous book. Best wishes to all. Stay well. Must go now.
Lyle Skains (she/her)
01:11:53
Thanks, Katie and Dene and Astrid and James and Deena!
Agnieszka Przybyszewska
01:11:57
Thank You all, take care! And congratulations for all authors.