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BHER Speaker Series - Shared screen with speaker view
kurt
12:56
Re-share screen but hit share sound.
Tisha Nelson
13:12
The sound is not coming because of the use of ear pods.
isnina issack
13:21
no voice is heard
Esther Munene
13:27
no sound
Tisha Nelson
13:29
Rachel is you disconnect the ear pods, it will work.
Tisha Nelson
13:42
*if you disconnect
Rachel Silver
14:20
Thanks it says I have an issue with Zoom audio
Mirco Stella
14:51
Good morning and evening everyone
isnina issack
17:11
add volume
Molade Osibodu
19:50
I am sorry but the volume is max on my end
isnina issack
24:40
through phone
zainab bishar
41:16
good evening to you all
Esther Munene
42:14
Good evening Zainab
Heather Dianne Lotherington
43:42
I love the multilingualism of this film - and see the education as not at all evolved from what I participated in 43 years ago in papua New Guinea…
Heather Dianne Lotherington
44:04
So much creativity is needed to work beneficially for all people within this
Gemechu Abeshu
46:14
Morning, evening to you all. I am originally from Ethiopia. I wonder how these refugees interact with the host population
Nombuso Dlamini
47:10
Yes, I like the films practices of language choice and use. Well, it depends on how you define education. If you take it to mean to be in a classroom with a teacher in front of you, then that view might hold. But there is more going on here to learn from beyond neo-colonial perceptions.
Molade Osibodu
47:20
Hi everyone, apologies for the break. I think it is important that we stress that we felt a great deal of discomfort when we watched the film but felt it was worthwhile to have a conversation around the politics of representation.
Heather Dianne Lotherington
48:53
And how :)
Molade Osibodu
49:08
We wonder Whose lenses or voices should we look to in documenting experiences of refugee camps like Kakuma?
Molade Osibodu
49:28
Please make notes of your feelings (or share with the group) for when we open up the discussion.
Heather Dianne Lotherington
49:51
how do they charge their cellphones?
Neil Bilotta (he/him)
50:33
Hello all- Nombuso Dlamini - yes, I absolutely agree with you. While this information is "important" for laypeople to be informed this context. Though, by continuously having white people (or non residents of Kakuma) create "knowledge" about this population raises a plethora of ethical concerns, in my opinion.
Heather Dianne Lotherington
52:40
And what motivations..it would be so interesting to hear from documentary film makers on process and perspective. This just looks ready made for charities and the perpetuation of paternalism
GRACE MUVUNYI
53:04
@ Heather, Kakuma is growing in to urban settlement. We have a number of refugees who have solar panels installed in their homes and some have been creative enough to start a business out of this with the availability of the hot sun.
Heather Dianne Lotherington
56:55
Sorry to have to move to another meeting—this is wonderful! So sorry to have to leave this interesting forum.
Teresa Mwoma
01:00:00
The film gives a true picture of what refugees go through right from the tie they arrive in camps and the experiences thereafter. It was a mazing to here majority of them speak Swahili language fluently.
kurt
01:03:06
I was wondering if that background music near the end of the clip (expressive slide guitar) was from local players in Kakuma? Or an imposed audio ‘clip’…? Local music and art that are in/visible un/hearable?
Josephine Gitome
01:04:45
The film focusses on daily experiences of a refugee child in Kakuma. In spite of the hardships they appear to experience, they are in a safety net compared to where they came from and the reason they are there.
isnina issack
01:12:21
even though I have never been in to kakuma but I can see it has solar life experience as dadaab refugee camps ,
isnina issack
01:14:21
and it is true that is the real life in camps
Gemechu Abeshu
01:17:12
Question: 1. Why chose the title "invisible city'? Who is invisible? Kakuma is definetly not invisible. Why choose this title? 2. Given the fact that there is a social and power hierarchy and social diversity within the Kakuma camp, how repsentative is this narrative? 3. I think the dimension of the interaction between the refugees and the host would have offered a perispective to look at the refugee life in Kakuma. Thank you
isnina issack
01:20:31
as teacher I think it is good to know the background of each evey students because when the primary students are in class a young girl was just thinking from very far and the teacher was not aware about her
isnina issack
01:22:46
again in the centres I was seeing that they were some language barrier mostly in the distribution centres and some excluded becoz his/ her community members are not there
isnina issack
01:23:54
even then though the refugees are here in Kenya they still connect from their origins homes and relatives outside the camps
dahaho abdi ibrahim
01:24:50
Refugees are people who are seeking peace regardless the country they origin but forced to integrate themselves even if they enemy
isnina issack
01:26:30
they was no inclusive of learning taking place in kakuma camps because majority of the refugee community believes disability is a carse so they may hide the innocent disability once
dahaho abdi ibrahim
01:26:57
In the documentary, Mothers are hero because they feeding children again still their heart are with those they left homeland.My God bless them where they are.
isnina issack
01:29:42
wonderful presentation grace
HaEun Kim
01:30:30
Thanks so much for sharing your thoughts Grace
dahaho abdi ibrahim
01:31:05
The school curriculum are not considering the language that the refugees children used and this is not helping the learning progress
Josephine Gitome
01:31:09
Great voice Grace! Thank you for the review. It reflects real experience.
Sharareh Kashi
01:31:29
Thank you Chloe and Grace for sharing your wonderful thoughts!
Rachel Silver
01:31:30
Yes, thank you so very much Grace and Chloe for your thoughtful remarks.
Grace Muvunyi
01:32:10
Thank you Isnina
Hawo Mohamed Ali
01:33:12
i appreciate grace how she represented thank you so much
dahaho abdi ibrahim
01:34:00
Thanks Grace and Chole for the good presentation.
Esther Munene
01:37:11
A very detailed perspective Grace. Wonderfully presented. Refugees can speak for themselves. They should always be given a chance to tell their own stories. But then I wonder, what was the film maker’s motivation towards making the film as is?
Mirco Stella
01:38:35
indeed Esther, that to me, is always the fundamental question behind any piece of research/representation.
Gemechu Abeshu
01:38:41
Thank you Grace.
Rachel Silver
01:38:57
This film brings to mind Chimamanda Ngozi Adichie’s viral TED talk about the danger/power of a single story. Whose story was told here? (And, of course, whose wasn’t?) Is it possible for any single story to capture the complexity of Kakuma?
Esther Munene
01:40:40
Sure, Rachel. There are clearly many stories which were not told. I think no single story can capture the complexity of Kakuma.
Gemechu Abeshu
01:42:31
Question 2-I have a methodological question-the issue of reflexivity of the film maker- how much the film maker reflected on his conscious and unconscious biases in selection of participants and choice of the narrative.
Grace Muvunyi
01:45:15
Thank You HaEun, Gitome, Kashi, Dahabo, Gemechu Esther
Grace Muvunyi
01:45:33
thanks Everyone, it was pleasure meeting you
Gemechu Abeshu
01:48:20
Thank you very much.
Mohamed Banda
01:48:58
How do we resolve the tension between Dr. Brushwood take on the film for example Damage centered framework, and Grace’s reflection on how do we bringing out the voices of marginalized communities, and empower them to speak?
Teresa Mwoma
01:49:03
Great insights Grace and chloe. Thanks.
Chaumeka Naveenakumar
01:49:36
Thank you so much :)
Paola Gabriele
01:49:40
Thank u :)
Grace Muvunyi
01:49:46
Thanks Teresa
Teresa Mwoma
01:50:19
Karibu
Molade Osibodu
02:07:50
There’s about 15 minutes left of the film
Molade Osibodu
02:07:56
Thank you for staying with us.
Josephine Gitome
02:10:53
Welcome Molade its a film worth watching to the end.
Michele Millard
02:14:21
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Rachel Silver
02:23:44
Thank you all so much for attending.
teresagomes
02:23:46
Is there a way to have a link to watch this film if we ever want to refer to it in the future?
Mirco Stella
02:23:57
thanks to everyone!
Marcela Sofia
02:24:41
Thank you very much!