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Waliya Yohanna
11:53
Hi everybody! You are welcome to ELO Salon
Deena Larsen
14:50
Yohanna Waliya Joseph, at the University of Calabar in Nigeria, is a digital poet, distant writer, novelist, playwright, winner of the Janusz Korczak Prize for Global South 2020, Electronic Literature Organization Research Fellow and UNESCO Janusz Korczak Fellow.
Deena Larsen
17:34
Hi all, it would be great if you can introduce yourselves in the chat--and if you would like notifications of further chats, please put your email in a note to me.
Jasmine Mattey
18:16
Hi everyone, I am Jasmine, I am an MA student at Uppsala University in Sweden :-)
Caitlin Fisher
18:49
Welcome, everyone!
Bill Bly
19:07
Hi, all — I'm Bill Bly, calling in from Mexico — great to see you all!
Vinicius
19:40
Hi, everyone! This is Vinicius from Brazil
Dene Grigar
19:53
Dene here still eating breakfast. I apologize.
Deena Larsen
20:00
Hi all, it would be great if you can introduce yourselves in the chat--and if you would like notifications of further chats, please put your email in a note to me.
Ashleigh Harris
20:05
Hi, I’m Ashleigh Harris. Professor at Uppsala University. Working on archiving of African ephemeral materials - both digital and material.
Caitlin Fisher
21:40
Caitlin - calling in from Ottawa, Canada, the unceded, unsurrendered Territory of the Anishinabe Algonquin Nation ;)
Deena Larsen
21:46
Yohanna Waliya Joseph, at the University of Calabar in Nigeria, is a digital poet, distant writer, novelist, playwright, winner of the Janusz Korczak Prize for Global South 2020, Electronic Literature Organization Research Fellow and UNESCO Janusz Korczak Fellow.
Reham Hosny
22:39
Hi everyone, I’m Reham Hosny working on Arabic electronic literature.
Jessica Pressman
22:50
How nice to see everyone. And thank you for setting this up!
Dene Grigar
23:13
A terrific turnout
Caitlin Fisher
23:46
Is anyone else having issues with audio?
Ashleigh Harris
23:47
Sound is hard to hear…
Deena Larsen
24:36
Let us know in the chat if the sound is hard to hear
Christopher Funkhouser
24:49
definitely challenging
Deena Larsen
25:09
We have 5 to 8 different languages
Caitlin Fisher
25:12
let’s try t o troubleshoot sounds again - I don’t want to miss the content…
Ashleigh Harris
25:17
Maybe better without the headset audio?
Jennifer Dellner
25:19
Yes, “blurry’ audio reception
Samya Roy
26:16
HelloSamya Brata Roy here from IndiaI am trying to explore the nature of Indian Storytelling in the online space in my masters dissertation. I want to carry it forward in my subsequent research activities.
Deena Larsen
26:24
Welcome all!
Dene Grigar
26:25
Try without the headphones?
Deena Larsen
26:32
Please introduce yourself in the chat!
Johannah Rodgers
26:54
@Samya Great to meet you! Do you have a link to some of your research?
Deena Larsen
26:56
Hi Samya! Welcome as we work
Deena Larsen
27:03
through multi linguistics
Agnieszka Przybyszewska
27:05
and maybe try without a hadset? I remember once You spoke without that and it was better.
Dene Grigar
27:10
Happy belated birthday, Samya!
Samya Roy
27:10
very happy to join everyone and my friend Waliya here!
Jennifer Dellner
27:35
Better
Ashleigh Harris
27:36
Much better
Johannah Rodgers
27:37
That is better.
Alex Boyd
27:41
that sounds better! great!
Deena Larsen
27:57
Yohanna has been working on African lit since ?? and compiling data on African lit
Lyle Skains
28:04
June of last year
Johannah Rodgers
28:12
Johannah Rodgers, Independent Artist and Scholar, Brooklyn, NY
Deena Larsen
28:32
This year, has been focusing on literature on the What's Up app
Dene Grigar
28:35
If he has prepared notes for this talk, I would love to see him share them with us after the talk
Deena Larsen
28:39
Can see what we have
Samya Roy
29:25
@ J Rodgers hello thanks a lot for taking interest in my work. I have just started to work and am in the process of writing my masters dissertation so my work is not really out there at the moment but it will be very soon. I have submitted an abstract at Elo as well! lets see if I get selected. I am very excited!you can read my creative work at: thepenarchist.wordpress.com where I have been writing for the last five years.
Samya Roy
29:52
@D Grigar thank you so very much. means a lot. sending hugs.
Deena Larsen
29:54
This excel database has links to each work
Anna Gorin Nacher
30:08
@Sama Roy Thank you!
Deena Larsen
30:25
This work will go in two minutes
Jennifer Dellner
30:31
Naive question: is the excel database openly available?
Karl Kempton
30:31
hi, i’m live in Oceano, California; 1/2 wat between s.f. & l.a. am a visual poet, poet, writer & photographer
Deena Larsen
31:04
This is the first African literature, but the quality was not consistent
Deena Larsen
31:26
This was in 1996. Most African literature has been created by private individuals
Samya Roy
31:30
@A Gorin welcome!
Deena Larsen
31:42
We have the game up to now only on windows
Deena Larsen
33:09
We will get the link to the MAELD Google doc
Deena Larsen
33:23
Most of the work in the database, Yohannah teaches,
Johannah Rodgers
34:04
Toxic Bunny Gameplay (1996): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ACCB3HrkLzI
Jennifer Dellner
34:27
Found link to database: https://t.co/q4zydmEXQB?amp=1
Johannah Rodgers
34:40
@Jennifer Thanks!
Samya Roy
35:09
@J Rodgers do share your work as well
Johannah Rodgers
35:09
Unfortunately, that is the link to the form to add to the database.
Serge BOUCHARDON
35:15
MAELD : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15QtjXBbcdZnQWLfV3n0mR0cXWT883Mw14OpX3Q-TLDU/
Anna Gorin Nacher
35:23
Thank you, Serge!
Deena Larsen
35:37
This one is produced by Aassurance company
Jennifer Dellner
35:42
Thank you Serge - I had the request to add works link and not the database.
AMELIA DEL ROSARIO SANZ CABRERIZO
35:47
THANKS , Serge!
Deena Larsen
36:16
Sanlam's Uk'shona Kwelanga is entirely on Whats Up
Deena Larsen
36:57
The story comes in letters
Deena Larsen
37:09
Notes from STreets
Jill Walker Rettberg
37:23
We’re hearing you OK!
Erik Loyer
37:25
Love the idea of What's App literature!
Deena Larsen
37:27
is another poem,
Johannah Rodgers
37:28
MarkLives #AdoftheYear2017​ #9: Sanlam case study • Making of Uk’shona Kwelanga • King James: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r4wGL3FY9Iw
Deena Larsen
38:00
THe notes from the street's background is integral to the poem.
Deena Larsen
39:19
Daughters of Chibok,
Johannah Rodgers
39:55
Daughters of Chibok: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmfOvvAkZWg
Deena Larsen
40:16
Tells the story of Nigerian girls kidnapped by Boku Haram
Johannah Rodgers
40:29
It was included in the Venice Biennale
Deena Larsen
40:53
IN Virtual reality and in VR360stories.com
Jasmine Mattey
40:56
Absolutely fascinating stuff!
Alan Sondheim
41:17
Can here you clearly now -
Deena Larsen
41:36
The database has 247 works from about 87 countires
Johannah Rodgers
41:57
The majority of the works are in English.
Deena Larsen
42:02
There are 38 languages, English dominates
Deena Larsen
42:20
(abour 206 works in English, Arabic is second, and French
Deena Larsen
42:44
There are works in local languages that are trasnlasted into other languages as well (polyglot_
Illya Szilak
42:53
This is great.
Samya Roy
43:29
Fantastic work brother mine @Waliyawe can hear you
Deena Larsen
44:38
This is so impressive to have such a wide range of works... and I wonder... where there is one work, there will be others. HOw do we recognize these works?
Vinicius
44:52
That´s a really fascinating project!
Deena Larsen
45:07
African diaspora literature (Canada, UK, US
Deena Larsen
45:51
Mauritius ins one small island--with 11 works, I wonder how many artists.
Illya Szilak
45:58
Why so many from Nigeria?
Deena Larsen
46:27
including a wide range of genres...
Anna Gorin Nacher
46:39
…and platforms
Deena Larsen
46:41
Go ahead and ask questions in the chat and I'll collate them for Yohanna
Jill Walker Rettberg
47:23
@illya Nigeria has 206 million inhabitants, huge cultural production.
Alan Sondheim
47:42
This is absolutely amazing!
Caitlin Fisher
47:57
beautiful. How is digital literature defined? (As against interactive/immersive etc.?)
Erik Loyer
48:14
Wonderful work!!!
Holly Slocum
48:15
Wow! Thank you!!
Anna Gorin Nacher
48:41
And I think technologically Nigeria is also one of countries with a lot of innovative initiatives
Jessica Pressman
48:42
Inspiring work. Thank you for sharing!
Jill Walker Rettberg
48:43
Wonderful collection, Waliya, this is SO USEFUL.
Ashleigh Harris
48:44
There is so much of this material out there, I think that it’s too large to draw too many conclusions about numbers. Nigeria and South Africa dominate all literary production, but I have a similar project on Southern African e lit and we got lots of hits from Zimbabwe, Namibia, Botswana, Lesotho and Swaziland
Alan Sondheim
48:44
Can you say something about the 360 degree piece? It seemed absolutely amazing -
Jennifer Dellner
49:02
Thank you! A really terrific databasse!
Jennifer Dellner
49:07
*database
Patrick Lichty
49:22
Nigeria has a lot of infrastructure, actually
Deena Larsen
49:44
Use two langugages to collect data --query google using French and English
Deena Larsen
49:59
There are many works in Kenya, South Africa, and Nigeria
Deena Larsen
50:16
Sometimes use Google Chrome to deal with language barrier (do you want to read in English)?
Deena Larsen
50:31
How can we get a multi lingual search for these works
Patrick Lichty
50:40
South Africa, Ghana, Senegal are also very active in digital culture
Illya Szilak
50:43
Really interesting and important insight
Deena Larsen
50:46
Also, sites need to be working to be in the database--and the Nigerian links are not dead.
Alan Sondheim
51:39
Thank you for talking about this
Deena Larsen
52:05
There are movements and language against terrorists, This reminds me about Rhemy's Dictionary of the Revolution... it is important to discuss and share these painful experiences--and elit is a great multi vocal way to do this.
Deena Larsen
52:15
Virtual REality provides an experience beyond the screen
Alan Sondheim
52:22
Agreed Deena
Deena Larsen
52:31
You are immersed in it, you are experiencing it as reality
Jasmine Mattey
52:35
Absolutely stunning! Thank you so so much for sharing your research and soldiering through the sound issues! I wanted to ask if everything in the database are things you have found in your research or if authors and creatives are reaching out to you directly? I was also wondering if you would be kind enough Yohanna to share your email address for any follow up questions later? There is so much to take in from your work that I think I will end up having more questions later!
Patrick Lichty
52:39
Immersion surrounds you.
Caitlin Fisher
52:59
Any idea of the gender breakdown of authors in the database?
Alex Boyd
53:23
this is incredible research! I really look forward to going through the database and experiencing them
Jennifer Dellner
53:48
@Alex - hard same
Ching-In Chen (Chingy, they/them)
54:03
Can the link to the database be shared again? Thank you.
Deena Larsen
54:08
Criteria for database--check game review websites, CNN?? works?
Kristine Kelly (she, hers)
54:19
Much needed research and collection of works! Thank you. What do you think is the best way to share e-lit in different African countries-that is what kinds of platforms are most accessible for various African readers/users?
Deena Larsen
54:23
Hero games from Cameroon are also in this
Serge BOUCHARDON
54:38
Yohanna is currently writing a paper about the database construction process
Deena Larsen
54:53
Excellent! I look forward to reading it
Reham Hosny
54:55
Thanks Wlliya for your great work. In 2017 I created a database for Arabic e-lit and happy to see it included here in your work. What e-lit definition you adopted in this database?
Waliya Yohanna
55:40
https://www.aurionthegame.com/aurion-shop?nextLocale=en
Deena Larsen
56:04
AFrican contintent has smartphones. Everyone has a smartphone, even small kids at 5 years old.
Deena Larsen
56:19
So the highest percentage of works are games or apps on Andriod
Deena Larsen
56:29
a few iPhone programs.
Caitlin Fisher
56:44
is it fair to say that elit in africa has emerged from the game industry? Or is that a reflection of your selection process?
Deena Larsen
56:44
Best way to spread elit in Africa is to develop mobile elit
Reham Hosny
56:46
You can find more on Arabic e-lit here:https://arabicelit.wordpress.com/posts/
Caitlin Fisher
57:24
Thanks reham - also a beautiful and important project!
C Funk
57:31
Yohanna: if you haven't yet been in touch with Eugenio Tisselli about his work in Tanzania, you might find something there... as I recall he was working with/teaching farmers to make stories with mobile phones. I don't know exactly what became of this, but likely something
Deena Larsen
58:00
We have been working with Jason Neilson and Dene Grigar and Davin Heckman to advise on the technical aspects of sharing database. And SErge!!
Deena Larsen
58:04
'Hooray!!!!
Deena Larsen
58:43
The goal is to show African literature in an African way--interactive map, and take to list of every work in that country
Ashleigh Harris
58:52
Do you have funding for this? Or are you looking for support?
Dene Grigar
59:08
We are hoping to have an exhibition of this work
Deena Larsen
59:11
Working for over six months --need collaborators
Illya Szilak
59:18
I have found from working with a collaborator in India that making tech accessible is really important. Oculus quest does not ship to India. How do they expect to have those voices heard? Those technologies and platforms are already being colonized by America and Europe.
Deena Larsen
59:39
Need collaborators! and support!
Deena Larsen
59:59
Caitlin and Dene are working to support the funding and support- Hooray!
Deena Larsen
01:00:09
We can also use donations for this effort :)
Alan Sondheim
01:00:12
Wonderful!
Ashleigh Harris
01:00:19
I would love to be in touch, Waliya - we have a large project called Contemporary Ephemeral African Literatures based at Uppsala University and I would love to join up with you and discuss how our different projects can support one another.
Alex Boyd
01:00:20
Congratulations! this is fantastic
Deena Larsen
01:00:22
Waliya needs to be in control of it.
Anna Gorin Nacher
01:00:42
This is wonderful!
Waliya Yohanna
01:00:47
My email: waliyayohannajoseph@yahoo.fr
Vinicius
01:00:55
Congratulations!
alan bigelow
01:01:03
Is there a place to donate to the project?
Deena Larsen
01:01:05
We would like to mount an exhibition at ELO 2022 or ?? unleashing in may--talk to Dene and Caitlin about mounting this exhibition
Dene Grigar
01:01:15
Good idea
Deena Larsen
01:01:32
WE need volunteers to work with Waliya and make the capacity to add to the database
Deena Larsen
01:01:39
We need the family of ELO to work with Waliya
Ashleigh Harris
01:01:43
We focus mostly on Eastern and Southern Africa, so it would be great to bring these two databases together.
Deena Larsen
01:01:51
We can amplify the call
Johannah Rodgers
01:02:39
1/ How can others donate to this project? ; 2/ How do we organize the volunteers?
Deena Larsen
01:02:51
Funding should go to ELO and earmark it for the African lit
Holly Slocum
01:02:58
I am very happy to help facilitate these donations!
Johannah Rodgers
01:03:06
I’m happy to be involved in helping with project organization and management.
alan bigelow
01:03:14
Thank you for the donation information!
Deena Larsen
01:03:16
Donate at eliterature.org (tax deductible) and earmark it by emailing to Holy
Deena Larsen
01:03:18
Holly
Holly Slocum
01:03:20
holly@eliterature.org
Ashleigh Harris
01:04:19
ashleigh.harris@engelska.uu.se
Waliya Yohanna
01:04:20
waliyayohannajoseph@unical.edu.ng
Johannah Rodgers
01:05:00
@Serge Do you have any suggestions regarding ways to assist with the management and development of Wally’s project?
Alan Sondheim
01:05:14
a lot of people here can't afford Oculus either -
Patrick Lichty
01:05:53
Not just Europe and America, East Asia is also a colonial force in VR
Deena Larsen
01:05:55
A L AFrican VR is a community for virtual reality and extended reality
Johannah Rodgers
01:06:03
@Patrick Yes!
Deena Larsen
01:06:10
works integrated into database
Deena Larsen
01:06:25
from the African VR community--they have sponsors.
Deena Larsen
01:06:37
This company helps the community to work with VR.
Agnieszka Przybyszewska
01:07:28
but is VR popular within readers in Africa?
Deena Larsen
01:07:47
Do you find or can you point to works collected that are commenting or remediating print-based African literature?
Samya Roy
01:08:01
hey..I am always happy help the fraternity and my friend Waliya here as much as I can! just putting it out there...
Samya Roy
01:08:17
samyabrataroy@gmail.com
Deena Larsen
01:08:23
Have work in French and English --a work from Cameroon, other countries that are in the database
Kristine Kelly (she, hers)
01:08:38
Waliya, Happy to help with your efforts as I can: knk@case.edu
Ching-In Chen (Chingy, they/them)
01:09:10
Waliya, I'd be happy to help: chingin@uw.edu
Patrick Lichty
01:09:25
The thing that's really interesting to me is that the Vin diagram for this intersex a .lot with the work we were doing in Arabia. #Reham Hosny
Patrick Lichty
01:09:50
I'm using speech to text sorry for some of the typos..
Serge BOUCHARDON
01:10:16
@Yohanna: do you think nowadays there are cultural specificities in African elit, or is African elit part of a "global digital cultural homogeneity" (quoting Leo)?
Waliya Yohanna
01:10:26
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.Gabaodesign.LBVRace2
Deena Larsen
01:10:37
LBV Race 2
Deena Larsen
01:10:47
Motor racing video game in which you drive taxis from the various communes of the Estuary of Gabon (Owendo, Libreville and Akanda) and an Okoumé vehicle. Thus, in its first version LBV Race takes place in the alleys of the city of Libreville modeled in 3D, on the interchange axis of Nzeng-Ayong - Blue Lake - Roundabout of democracy.
Jasmine Mattey
01:11:17
Excellent, thank you!
Johannah Rodgers
01:11:21
A work from Gabon: https://mega.nz/file/ygUEzAIC#6w-0kfnGPS7ZGD4zP2Wb48hbW5JrgC-4OzNMP__lUI0
C Funk
01:11:24
one thing you might want to add to the database (I didn't see it there) is J.M. Coetzee's computer poems... see https://sites.utexas.edu/ransomcentermagazine/2017/06/28/the-computer-poetry-of-j-m-coetzees-early-programming-career/
Patrick Lichty
01:11:34
From the Arabian perspective, I would argue that there are specificities, and there isn’t a homogeneity, as much of Elit is seen from a North American/European perspective.
Caitlin Fisher
01:12:00
The chat is being saved to the York server - I’ll go in later this week and identify specific people/resource offers and make sure Waliya is provided with the information… maybe we can all share with Aliya what we can offer + then be part of an unstructured working group that waliya can call on as-needed (?)
Caitlin Fisher
01:12:16
*Waliya ;)
Patrick Lichty
01:12:30
Fantastic.
Deena Larsen
01:12:53
Thank you Caitlin! We can at least have a google doc which collates volunteer interests and allows Waliya to let us know how to help
Alan Sondheim
01:13:02
Can you describe what goes on in the game you showed?
Karl Kempton
01:13:06
https://www.karlkempton.net/
Patrick Lichty
01:14:08
Yes.
Deena Larsen
01:14:22
AFrican elit--work must be produced by someone of African descent
Deena Larsen
01:14:56
John Pierre Balpe concluded --if the computer expresses African heritage, culture, landscape, and habits--the work is charcarterized as African literature.
Deena Larsen
01:15:07
Also for elit--must use code of computer to mediate the language.
Patrick Lichty
01:15:19
African Elit represents the African gestalt, Araboc Elit expresses the Arabian gestalt, etc. Brilliant
Patrick Lichty
01:15:36
Salam Reham
Agnieszka Przybyszewska
01:15:44
How is the relaction between digital art. and digital literature in Africa?
Deena Larsen
01:16:15
Good plan. Please raise your hand, if you want to comment--and you can also put questions in the chat.
Deena Larsen
01:16:29
If we don't get to the questions and will follow up
Johannah Rodgers
01:16:49
@Reham could you share a link to the Arabic elit database?
Deena Larsen
01:16:55
STories and VR created by African locals which involve programming--a digital device
Deena Larsen
01:17:19
Involves an immersive interactive experience, with watching
Serge BOUCHARDON
01:17:19
@Johannah: a beautiful kinetic creation playing with Arabic calligraphy:The Dice player - لاعب النرد (2013), by Nissmah Roshdy, after Mahmoud Darwishhttps://vimeo.com/69830884
Johannah Rodgers
01:17:34
@Serge Thank you!
Deena Larsen
01:18:18
How is the relaction between digital art. and digital literature in Africa?What is the content? In digital art--it is a part of elit, as it uses computer
Deena Larsen
01:18:39
there is the intersection of the computer in both, but elit can be fiction, narratives,
Erik Loyer
01:18:39
I have to go prepare for another call -- thank you so much Waliya for sharing this wonderful work!!
Deena Larsen
01:18:49
Visual art is not interactive--it is more of a static picture
Reham Hosny
01:18:53
@Johannah It’s included in this study https://electronicbookreview.com/essay/mapping-electronic-literature-in-the-arabic-context/
Deena Larsen
01:18:57
Elit is interactive, with kinetic
Johannah Rodgers
01:19:03
@Reham Thank you!
Agnieszka Przybyszewska
01:19:17
Thank You! And what about the first work You presented? Was it mora a e-lit or just a game?
Deena Larsen
01:19:21
Research methods-- and thank you for this fascinating info
Caitlin Fisher
01:19:30
I’m really struck by a definition for inclusion that includes expressing African happiness ‘)
Deena Larsen
01:19:55
Talk about research methods--are you using social media to find these pieces or search engines
Deena Larsen
01:20:00
To collect datbase
Patrick Lichty
01:20:13
“I’m really struck by a definition for inclusion that includes expressing African happiness ‘)”
Deena Larsen
01:20:15
Look at the mainstream media. Look at national juries.
Patrick Lichty
01:20:20
Interesting
Deena Larsen
01:20:23
Which ideas, look at readers.
Deena Larsen
01:20:42
Recognize by people--for example, mobile game is doubtrul (2007)
Deena Larsen
01:20:53
A Kenyan? speak about Africa--
Deena Larsen
01:21:00
Doubtful talks about Lagos struggles
Deena Larsen
01:21:17
We have works like Adium? from Cameroon?
Caitlin Fisher
01:21:17
is there maybe an independent, experimental African elit scene, then, that is difficult to capture?
Bill Bly
01:21:40
Fascinating work — thank you so much for bringing it all to our attention!
Dene Grigar
01:22:00
I need to leave. Thank you, Deena and Caitlin. And thank you, Waliya, for sharing your research with us.
Jessica Pressman
01:22:12
Thank you very much for this introduction to African elit!
Ching-In Chen (Chingy, they/them)
01:22:15
Thank you for sharing your research! Have to transition to another meeting now.
Johannah Rodgers
01:22:21
Thank you so much @Waliya! I have to go to another meeting, but I will look forward to talking soon regarding project organization and development.
Deena Larsen
01:22:44
If your work has gone mainstrame, you have readers
Alan Sondheim
01:22:49
Are there independent scenes that might also come out of universities and not being carried by global media?
Deena Larsen
01:23:00
Maybe only one person is using these techniques, but would not count that in the database
Deena Larsen
01:23:13
Works in the database have acceptance by the readers
Reham Hosny
01:23:18
@ Johanna @Serge The Dice player - لاعب النرد (2013) is based on a paper poetry.
Deena Larsen
01:23:32
Try to get VR into the universities
Deena Larsen
01:23:52
efforts to bring programmers in one place
alan bigelow
01:23:53
Thank you for this talk. Very interesting!
Deena Larsen
01:24:17
ALSO, please provide your email if you want notices of future ELO Salons--we meet every second Tuesday at 11 am Eastern time
Alan Sondheim
01:24:24
Thank you!
Karl Kempton
01:24:43
to me it seems a google search in arabic is required to expand northrn africa works
Mark Marino
01:25:12
u can continue the discussion in the discord. i will make a salon chat channel.
Zach Whalen (He|Him)
01:25:19
I have to go, but this was excellent! Thanks!
Jill Walker Rettberg
01:25:25
Hi Deena — can you add me to the email list (Scott.rettberg@uib.no)
Patrick Lichty
01:25:42
Yes!
Holly Slocum
01:25:53
Thank you for showing us this incredible effort. I'm excited to see where it continues to go.Deena, I'd love to be added to the email list as well. holly@eliterature.org
Deena Larsen
01:26:17
First Arabic facebook novel--want to delete a lady from his own account, as he has 2,000 followers
Deena Larsen
01:26:27
Use google chrome to translate the novel--
Mark Marino
01:26:34
okay, new channel salon-chat can be used to continue chatting
Deena Larsen
01:26:53
There are many Arabic works and there is the language barrier
Caitlin Fisher
01:26:59
Thank you for the new salon chat channel, mark!
Patrick Lichty
01:26:59
There are many Arabic works, yes!
Jennifer Dellner
01:27:08
I have to leave to go to class. Thank you for this wonderful salon - I could listen all day!
Deena Larsen
01:27:09
Most works written in Arabic are not translated
Patrick Lichty
01:27:18
We did an Arabic Elit conference in. Dubai.
Deena Larsen
01:27:20
Onlyl about 23 or 4 works are written in both Arabic and English
Deena Larsen
01:27:30
Need a translation project to translate these elit works
Caitlin Fisher
01:27:33
I know many people have to leave, but I can leave the zoom open until 12:30
Deena Larsen
01:27:54
Thanks Caitlin. Please feel free to stay and chat and we will have the whole unedited recording available
Kristine Kelly (she, hers)
01:27:58
So glad you’re doing this work, Waliya. Thank you for an interesting talk
Mark Marino
01:28:06
thank u for this terrific work and conversation. Thank u Yohanna and Deena!
Deena Larsen
01:28:40
Creativeity of the South Africans... book of Shona Calliga uses Whats App--they give you the narrative for 7 days.
Deena Larsen
01:29:06
they post it daily for those 7 days
Deena Larsen
01:29:18
Whats App literature
Deena Larsen
01:29:35
First Arabic Facebook novel, one millimeter away
C Funk
01:29:40
excellent program, thanks everyone!
Deena Larsen
01:29:48
@Reham, can you give us that title and link, please
Waliya Yohanna
01:29:52
Uk’Shona Kwalenga
Deena Larsen
01:30:43
This novel was developed in a facebook account--for two months, he posted a part of the novel every two days and incorporated the feedback from the followers in the novel
Karl Kempton
01:30:46
https://www.facebook.com/KarlKempton108/
Deena Larsen
01:31:12
The plot is about a girl he met on favebook, and then develops the plot with the progression of the relationship
Serge BOUCHARDON
01:31:22
Abdelouahid Stitu: Only One Millimeter Away (2013)
Deena Larsen
01:32:20
Reham had a conference in Dubai in 2018 and we have Patrick Lichty who helped organize it
Waliya Yohanna
01:32:32
http://www.msahli.com/1mm/?fbclid=IwAR1tH5MyrdhE9ds82sFtYPlfm2WWVSN7V8lU7gAb8mrtGJBaO1ZyKXEtmD4
Alex Boyd
01:32:34
I have to go but this was absolutely amazing. Thank you so much for sharing this.
Deena Larsen
01:32:36
We need to hold an ELO conference in an African and Arabic country
Waliya Yohanna
01:32:38
1mm
Deena Larsen
01:33:02
Collaborating with ELO in 2018--hpe to have an ELO conference in an Arabian or African country
Deena Larsen
01:33:23
BReaking open discourse in elit--there really isn't a global homogeniety
Alan Sondheim
01:33:46
There are multiplicities everywhere! :-)
Deena Larsen
01:33:54
There are Arabic and African sensibilitieS--Variies over differet countries, different cultures
Serge BOUCHARDON
01:34:03
Arabic e-lit conference in Dubai: https://eliterature.org/2018/02/arabic-e-lit-conference-in-dubai-feb-25-27-commences/
Caitlin Fisher
01:35:02
Be sure to support the contributions of our first conference team from India as part of ELO 2021!
Deena Larsen
01:35:05
Hanafe? America?--all of her works are int he database
Deena Larsen
01:35:17
YES CAitlin, definitely, @Samya
Reham Hosny
01:35:46
Amirah Hanafi
Nohelia Meza
01:36:16
Merci de partager ta recherche avec nous, Yohanna!
Karl Kempton
01:36:18
this seems to be the beginning of a much larger frame. an excellent meetinh. thanks for the invite.
Agnieszka Przybyszewska
01:36:24
Thank You for this speach, it has been a wonderful experience! And it is good to hava an introduction to African e-lit!
Alan Sondheim
01:36:37
Absolutely - if it's not fundamentally virtual in some way, there's a HUGE divide among peoples who can participate!!! No matter where people are from -
Caitlin Fisher
01:36:53
yes - just a beginning! A fantastic one: thank you, Waliya and everyone.
Deena Larsen
01:37:07
YEs, there is a huge divide for all --we do need equipment, internet access, etc.
Nohelia Meza
01:37:18
Thank you for your comments dear Reham, I learned a lot! <3
Deena Larsen
01:37:20
There is a significant global shaping force in East Asia
Deena Larsen
01:37:33
Everyone, please do introduce yourselves in the chat!
Alan Sondheim
01:37:36
A lot of people in the Eurozone can't afford VR either -
Waliya Yohanna
01:37:58
My climatophosis just won The Best Use of DH for Fun!!
Maria Mencia
01:37:59
@Deena @waliya, Thanks very much, I had to follow this wonderful introduction to African e-lit to as I was driving!! But looking forward to explore all these excellent works.
Reham Hosny
01:38:00
@Nohelia Thanks dear!
Alan Sondheim
01:38:14
Thank you very very much everyone, this was wonderful!!!
Reham Hosny
01:38:14
Thanks Waliyah and everyone!
Waliya Yohanna
01:38:37
You are welcome all
Serge BOUCHARDON
01:38:38
Merci Yohanna et Deena :-)
Jill Walker Rettberg
01:38:39
Hi Waliyah — congrats on a great presentation
Alan Sondheim
01:38:54
Let's go for 3 am here! I'm most awake then!
Samya Roy
01:39:00
oh yes coffee!
Jill Walker Rettberg
01:39:06
We need to eat dinner but great to see everyone.
Agnieszka Przybyszewska
01:39:11
and also thank You Deena
lorraine feugère
01:39:21
Thank you very much to you all, that was very interesting !
Samya Roy
01:39:30
congratulations my brother Waliya again
AMELIA DEL ROSARIO SANZ CABRERIZO
01:39:43
Thank you from Madrid! Merci !
Lyle Skains
01:39:46
Thanks, Johanna, and Deena for hosting!
Karl Kempton
01:39:52
think of visual text art composed by computer also as e-lit
Davin Heckman
01:39:57
<3
Maria Mencia
01:39:57
Goodbye everybody!
Nohelia Meza
01:40:03
Many thanks, Deena!
Deena Larsen
01:40:10
Thank you all for coming and for supporting elit EVERYWHERE
Alan Sondheim
01:40:10
Thank you!!!
lorraine feugère
01:40:17
Merci à toi !
Reham Hosny
01:40:20
Thanks Deena and everyone!
Patrick Lichty
01:40:27
Thank you.
Jasmine Mattey
01:40:32
Thank you, hope you all enjoy the rest of your days nights and mornings!
Samya Roy
01:42:59
I have extended some help in the conference and have joined Elmcip. But have not been yet able to contribute at Elmcip as much as I wanted to owing my masters coursework and other stuff including my dissertation. But yes I hope contribute as I go along. Thanks a lot Deena and everyone else for the support.
Davin Heckman
01:43:55
davinheckman@gmail.com
Waliya Yohanna
01:44:27
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/15QtjXBbcdZnQWLfV3n0mR0cXWT883Mw14OpX3Q-TLDU/edit#gid=654642310
Samya Roy
01:44:50
Ah thanks, professor! And I should mention Dr S Rettberg and H Ackermans has been very helpful towards myself.
Deena Larsen
02:18:27
I have a meeting in about four minutes. but let's keep workng on this!@
Waliya Yohanna
02:18:36
I don’t hear you anymore
Deena Larsen
02:18:46
I know, I screwed up my mike. But we will keep working
Deena Larsen
02:19:00
Thanks and bye!
Waliya Yohanna
02:19:06
bye